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Born on January 04, 2013•19273 Karma
The lab and its virus-prevention research did not in any way "spark Covid". (Fauci also believes the lab-leak theory is unsupported, but he testified to Congress that he did not officially share that opinion with other U.S agencies. Tulsi Gabbard says he did, so that's the extent of the "lie" she's accusing him of.) It's interesting that the sum total of the money that theory rests on is "millions" of dollars.
The submitted link (from the reputable magazine Science) does report "further evidence that China is withholding vital data on the contentious issue." But the social media post revealed new incriminating data which China has never shared -- that supports the market-origin theory. ("The maps identify specific stalls as having live animals infected with SARS-CoV-2 and vendors with antibodies to the virus...")
"The British GDP has been reduced by 6–8%, business investment has been reduced by 12%, and trade volume has been reduced by 15%, compared to what it could have been if the U.K. had remained in the EU."
https://now.tufts.edu/2026/06/08/10-years-after-brexit-vote-...
The UK is not the empire it was once, they need ties with mainland Europe, their closest trading partners, to be economically viable. So this doesn't entirely come as a surprise to me.
They used lies. Literal fabrications out of whole cloth.
They said that the UK was spending hundreds of millions of pounds on the EU, and if they pulled out they could use that money on like the NHS or something.
Lies.
Of course this was painted as "project fear", and Michael Gove famously said that people had had enough of experts.
The average person doesn't care about any of that.
If ~99% of those gains go to ~0.1% of people, the average person does not care.
What they do care about is, did MY expenses go up higher than MY wages. Did MY opportunities get better or worse...
In the UK example, the result is potentially even worse - but I would guess the response to COVID & global wars are likely to have a bigger impact on that than Brexit.
Well, at least Ukrainians aren't publishing state sponsored books about Komrade Hitler like Russia does - the state sponsored revisionism about Hitler happening in Russia right now is insane, I was going to say you forgot that you fought him, but then again, WW2 started by Russia making a pact with Hitler, so maybe actually nothing was forgotten.
>>history like their midget bandera hero
The funny thing is only completely brainwashed Russians seem to care about Bandera at this point, if FSB is providing you with talking points online then they really need to update their guidance. I just find it interesting what is it about HN that makes you guys come out of the woods - surely FSB isn't paying that much to post on random tech forums online? Or is it just paid per hour?
States are sovreign, the federal body doesn't have direct powers of taxation and the money it does get is what the states tell it it's getting, foreign policy only happens to extent individual states say it does, lacks a fully unified financial system, more about interstate commerce than anything else.
But yes, if you hate that and want to spend 6-8% GDP not having it, this is absolutely within the rights of the people to decide that.
Of course, if they didn't want that and just plain didn't believe the people who accurately explained the cost, that's an argument for undoing it. Lying politicians isn't at all unique here, and unfortunately politicians saying the decision is permanent and irreversable is also not at all unique, but it is anti-democratic.
The US is not an empire in the historical sense; and if you stretch definitions enough to make it count, that would make the US an "empire" which the UK is very much still under the thumb of, and indeed the entire EU in aggregate would also be under the USA's thumb with or without the UK in it, while also making the EU the UK's best chance for leaving the USA's sphere of influence.
Moron.
That being said – and with no reduction in my apology – I'm very glad to see that the comment my anger was directed at (a wild political statement without anything backing it up or anything contributing to further discussion) was also reprimanded. This kind of "contribution" to the discourse is a major threat to free societies, and should be called out (calling the author a moron is, of course, not the best way of doing that).
We hadn't reprimanded that user as yet, not because we regard it as a good comment (we certainly don't), but because we hadn't gotten to it. That's almost always the reason why we may reprimand one comment but not another bad one in a subthread. We're often not reading through subthreads in order of the discussion; we have different views of comments we look at to help us find the worst ones. Often, we get to other comments later, or if not, users who comment like that repeatedly will be reprimanded at another time, and eventually banned if they keep it up.
> This kind of "contribution" to the discourse is a major threat to free societies
I'd appeal to you to be less alarmist about comments posted on a niche tech-focused text-only discussion board. People can have strongly opposing opinions and even unhealthy ways of expressing political positions without necesssarily being "a major threat to free societies".
Of course, any economic gains weren't guaranteed and were predicated on competent national government and we saw what happened there.
However, net-net, I'd rather have one shite layer of government, rather than two.
To make a parallel that might work for California or NY. In Europe however there is no single country that is so much better than the others at making money, in the same way as those two. Even countries that didn't enter the EU (Switzerland, Norway) accepted most of the EU regulations because they need some of them.
The UK in that respect already had the sweetest deal of all EU members; and, unlike Switzerland or Norway, actually had a say on the regulations that it had to follow. Plus, they had and have a messy situation due to (non-EU-related and therefore unaffected by Brexit) agreements that the border with Ireland cannot be a customs union, so the only thing a competent national government could do was to tell people they had been duped and promised something impossible. The result would have been a Switzerland- or Norway-like non-membership, with small benefits and less power in the EU.
I think their point was that babbling is an instinctive first step toward trying to communicate. But it also shows how the native language -- what's being spoken around newborns -- is being absorbed.
Edit: a more recent article mentions a budget of $730M:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-...
Not sure if Russia, China and the others you mention spend more (totalled) than $730M?
I think the biggest issue with this conspiracy theory is why Israel would want to take out the liberty? It seems like the events would be strongly detrimental to Israeli interests. Nobody has really come up with a compelling motive, which suggests to me the most likely scenario is accident/miscommunication.
https://xkcd.com/356/
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More recently, attention has shifted beyond the gym. Early research suggests creatine could have a role in cognitive function, with some studies pointing to protection from cognitive decline.
“A few bigger studies have brought it into focus,” says [Bethan Crouse, a sports nutritionist at Loughborough University].
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/may/25/is-it-t...
So for example, if you were a contractor who paid your taxes on April 15 (rather than making quarterly payments).
https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian...